the senate intelligence committee, including dianne feinstein, john mccain, and carl levin wrote letters protesting the use of torture or the depiction of torture in the film. naomi wolf called the preliminarymakers apologists for evil, and screen writer said the film was hijacked for political purposes. what did you make of the film in terms of touching on a very incendiary topic? >> it's a very, very well made film. beautifully directed. my problem with the film is what you describe. namely that the -- look, a few years ago those scenes that you saw, the torture scenes, would they have been played? would the roles have been reversed? the bad guys, the ones who are doing the torturing would have been played as nazis, as communists, or as terrorists. you would never have seen those scenes played the way they were with the fine impartial at here. when the picture takes that attitude towards p torture, this sort of neutrality towards torture, it takes a position, and for it implies that's what led to the capture of osama bin laden. >> i will read an excerpt, ben, from catherine bigalow. sh